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Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:57 pm
by ImRich
I wonder how many broken helm seat bolsters are out there.

On my '05 3560 I noticed the bolster pad moved too much when it was in the vertical position if someone put some weight on it. Perhaps these were designed to lean against them, and not to have someone sit on them when in the vertical position, but mine was broken.

I checked a friends '07 4060 and his was the same way.

If you take the vinyl off of the bolster, here is what you see:
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Bolster interior - cracked in many places


There are several cracks in the 'spine'!

Basically, every place where the manufacturer added a screw to fasten the 'top' to the 'spine', the 'spine' cracked!
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You can see two breaks here


Probably because the screws were too large for the material:
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Close up of a break, showing the very large screw


Here's how I fixed mine, I added a piece of aluminum angle to the length of the 'spine' and screwed it in many places using #8 stainless flat head screws and counter sunk the screw heads:
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Repair it by using a piece of aluminum and counter sunk flat head screws


I also counter-sunk the nuts so that they would not be felt under the foam:
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Counter sink the nuts so that they are not felt through the foam when sitting on the seat and to keep the nuts from wearing through the vinyl


Re-attach the foam and vinyl and re-insall on the helm seat. Now it's better than it was when new.

I would put money on it that almost every helm seat designed this way is broken!

FYI, my dealer said that you can't order the bolster pad separately, and a new helm seat would cost about $1600!

This repair cost me about $25 in parts.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:10 pm
by Chris_in_Texas
Good fix to know. I had a similar issue on my 3060 as well with the king starboard breaking.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:33 am
by Mischief Managed
I've had to repair (and improve) the helm seats on both Regals that I've owned and also used aluminum extensively. They seem to be a consistent weak point from what I can tell by our small sample sizes. It's good to be handy and I like your fix a lot.

I bought a Harbor Freight pneumatic stapler that shoots Arrow T-50 SS staples. It's powerful and surprisingly reliable; I highly recommend it if you ever need to do more marine (or motorcycle) upholstery repair. Only 21 bucks. That said, I'd be happy to lend it out...

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:19 am
by ImRich
Thanks for the offer, that's always appreciated!

If you ever need some stainless staples for a small repair, let me know. I have large box of more than I can use and would be happy to give you some if you need it. The shipping costs usually cost more than the staples themselves, so I purchased more than I needed for my last boat, but I sold the boat before I finished all the repairs that I had planned.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:39 am
by socalboater
The above was very helpful. Working on a similar repair this weekend. Regal quoted $75 for replacement plastic (mine is a lot smaller that the one pictured) so it's definitely worth taking the time to make it better. Thank you for the helpful pictures.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:19 pm
by timp4411
ImRich wrote:Thanks for the offer, that's always appreciated!

If you ever need some stainless staples for a small repair, let me know. I have large box of more than I can use and would be happy to give you some if you need it. The shipping costs usually cost more than the staples themselves, so I purchased more than I needed for my last boat, but I sold the boat before I finished all the repairs that I had planned.


Hi Rich.

Can you please tell mw where you got those staples? I have been looking for some Monel staples to tack down the carpet padding on my Jet Ski Lift and wanted to use stainless to tack the carpet in place.

Thanks.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:36 pm
by steve & dot
McMaster-Carr sells stainless and nickel staples for the T50. They ship same day.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:33 am
by ImRich
Sorry, I forget where I got the staples, I have had them for about 5 years now. I'm sure Google can find them for your, or as mentioned, McMaster.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:05 am
by timp4411
steve & dot wrote:McMaster-Carr sells stainless and nickel staples for the T50. They ship same day.


Thanks for the info !

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:05 am
by timp4411
ImRich wrote:Sorry, I forget where I got the staples, I have had them for about 5 years now. I'm sure Google can find them for your, or as mentioned, McMaster.


Thanks Rich.

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:12 am
by gofast24
timp4411 wrote:
ImRich wrote:Thanks for the offer, that's always appreciated!

If you ever need some stainless staples for a small repair, let me know. I have large box of more than I can use and would be happy to give you some if you need it. The shipping costs usually cost more than the staples themselves, so I purchased more than I needed for my last boat, but I sold the boat before I finished all the repairs that I had planned.


Hi Rich.

Can you please tell mw where you got those staples? I have been looking for some Monel staples to tack down the carpet padding on my Jet Ski Lift and wanted to use stainless to tack the carpet in place.

Thanks.

Last time I bought SS staples was from Sears. That is where I got the heavy duty mechanical staple gun from, a long time ago! Have used it for at least 20 years, no problems other than finding the SS staples (I would rather have SS than monel metal, a lot stronger and will never rust or corrode).

Re: Repair of broken Helm Bolster

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:58 am
by timp4411
gofast24 wrote:
timp4411 wrote:
ImRich wrote:Thanks for the offer, that's always appreciated!

If you ever need some stainless staples for a small repair, let me know. I have large box of more than I can use and would be happy to give you some if you need it. The shipping costs usually cost more than the staples themselves, so I purchased more than I needed for my last boat, but I sold the boat before I finished all the repairs that I had planned.


Hi Rich.

Can you please tell mw where you got those staples? I have been looking for some Monel staples to tack down the carpet padding on my Jet Ski Lift and wanted to use stainless to tack the carpet in place.

Thanks.

Last time I bought SS staples was from Sears. That is where I got the heavy duty mechanical staple gun from, a long time ago! Have used it for at least 20 years, no problems other than finding the SS staples (I would rather have SS than monel metal, a lot stronger and will never rust or corrode).


Hmm.... Sears, I'll check them out.
Thanks